By Jeffrey the Barak.
Wait a minute, it’s 2016. Why would someone write a review of an SPD-30 now, when it came out in 2010? Good question. Firstly it’s still the newest model, and secondly, I just bought one, for the following reason.
I am now in a situation where having a big drum set around is not practical, and I needed to make a few compromises to get into a smaller footprint.
I sold my Yamaha electronic drum set, built around a DTX-700 module, despite being very impressed at how real that sounded when playing jazz, and emulating acoustic drums, rims, bells, bows and all. The silicone snare and three-zone ride cymbal were particularly wonderful using the default sounds in the module. As real as any VST actually, with a great dynamic range. But it’s gone and I won’t cry over it. Too darn big I say.
I should mention at this point that I have tried it before. I had a mini kit based around the older SPD-20 with the exact same FD-8 and KD-7 foot triggers, eight years ago. I was quite unproductive on that kit, but the newer SPD-30 has nicer pads and better onboard sounds. I also once had a similarly sized setup centered around a DrumKAT, (with a sound module added).
I had tried out the Roland SPD-30 Octapad in the local Guitar Center on three occasions over the last six years and walked away unimpressed, and I sat at one at NAMM for quite a while, and it still left a lot to be desired. But I was able to realize that this was partly due to the default settings. The SPD-30, once the manual has been studied, and it has been thoughtfully set up, can be a decent little set of drums.
Firstly, it is tiny. Even when you add the Roland FD-8 hat control pedal and a KD-7 reverse kick trigger and a kick pedal or the even smaller setup using the newer KT-10 kick trigger, plus a rubber floor mat in consideration of the neighbors, and a throne on which to sit, it takes up about as much floor footprint as two chairs. I would describe the rebound, or stick-feel, as being similar to that of the center of the head on a 14 inch snare drum. And remember this little tray takes the place of your drums, cymbals, most of the hardware, and the module.
Now most people who buy electronic drums today want them to be as enormous as acoustic drums, despite there being absolutely no function in such a design and layout, and so let’s just say, these drummers are not ready to go with a multipad, and let them walk laps around their sparkly fake shells, big mesh heads, rubber cymbals as big as brass cymbals, and giant knee-high kick triggers etc.
Can the Octapad be the solution?
The first thing you have to do when deciding to use a Roland SDP-30 Octapad as a complete yet compact drum kit, is to not care at all if the band says it does not look cool.
The second thing you have to do when deciding to use a Roland SDP-30 Octapad as a complete yet compact drum kit, is ignore and overlook many of the features that you just paid good money for.
The entire, prominently featured, “Phrase-Loop” engine? Pretend it’s not there.
The massive sound library of things that are not in an acoustic drum kit? Just say, “Very nice, but no thank you”.
And now let’s see what we are left with.
Assuming you bought recently, or updated the original firmware to version 2, (which you must do), you have a very small selection of nice acoustic snare drums, kick drums, hats, rides, crashes and toms. There is enough to assemble and tweak at least two or three very nice sounding drum kits that you will not be embarrassed to gig with. You can put these onto kits 99, 98, 97 etc., or overwrite any of the more silly kits and rename them, and then add these new personalized kits to your favorites list for easy summoning.
One of the things I had to look at right away was adjusting the sensitivity. Perhaps due to the large number of cave-dwelling drummers who whack away at electronic pads with log-like sticks, like demolition workers with sledgehammers, the default sensitivity will simply miss the more intelligent parts of your brilliant, properly gripped, jazzy rolls and lightening fast rudiments. You have to teach the sensitivity settings not to ignore the good stuff that you spent your life practicing to play on your instrument of choice.
And then, since there are no rims, you have to program your pads so that your snare or snares get a rimshot as a second “layer” that you can summon with a harder hit. And then you may decide to sacrifice your third tom in favor of a second snare or a China cymbal. Or keep the kick as pedal trigger input only and free-up the bottom-left pad, usually assigned to kick drum, for something else. Or if you are left-handed, you can completely mirror your pad layout for comfort.
All of this adjustment and customization requires that you read the owner’s manual, and focus on the job at hand for anywhere between ten minutes and an hour. But it is time well spent, even for those of us who cannot usually pay attention to anything, because what you end up with is superior to what Roland shipped to you by default. The manual is your friend.
The end result is quite a usable mini-kit, with some compromise. You won’t get lots of variables on your hi-hat, no 1/4 open, no 3/4 open, no Yamaha-like pitch bend when pressing on closed pedal etc. In fact you can only choose between open/close, or open/half, or half/close, and stay with that until you adjust in the menu again.
But you could still MIDI out to record with your VST’s in your DAW instead of all the above.
Drum Roll Please
But there is still the big test to be done. Can it be set up to respond smoothly to a drum roll? Coming from the silicone pad and superb brain of a Yamaha DTX-700 I am now used to hearing what sounds very much like a real drum set in my headphones, and effortlessly throwing down both extremely quiet, and loud rolls as if there was an actual snare drum in front of me. To achieve this, an electronic drum has to produce many long sound samples per second.
Out of the box, as it comes, the Octapad cannot do this. So I have my next mission, which is to navigate the menus to look at settings and effects and see just how long the snare pad can ring, and see whether the Octapad has enough computing power to handle the data that a simple drum roll stuffs into it, and produce a sound for each and every stroke and let that sound play in it’s entirety despite all the newer inputs from the sticks.
This sounds complicated, but it is only what we expect from a real acoustic drum, so it is an important aspect of the instrument. Maybe not for rock or pop, but certainly for jazz and orchestral drumming where a good roll is one of our main voices.
By default, muffling is set to zero. So the original drum was sampled, or electronically modeled in Roland’s case, without muffling. Some of the snare notes play longer than others. The “Tight Snare”, for example, sounds quite real on a single hit, and it sounds for each stroke of a roll, and you don’t hear the sound being choked off, but still, the roll as a whole does not sound that smooth.
The setting called Threshold, can be reduced by two increments from the default to help with registering your softest hits, but I have to report, sadly, that when you listen through precise headphones that do not lie, the Octapad is not the greatest electronic drum device to produce a roll with. And for this reason, it’s usefulness for jazz drumming is compromised, at least when you use the onboard sounds, unless you really know how to play a perfect roll.
Your best hope is to play through the P.A. system in a lively room, and hope that the speakers and the room’s acoustics fill in the gaps. Then you might just get away with it. I tested my Octapad through my Yamaha DXR12 powered speaker and my drum roll sounded really good. I would gig with this Octapad and this speaker.
MIDI out to a VST
We already disregarded most of the SPD-30 Octapad’s onboard sounds, so let’s now go all the way and only use the triggers. handing control over to the computer and playing sounds from a virtual sound engine such as BFD, Superior Drummer, Addictive Drums, etc. This will always be a better way to record, and almost no drum modules can compare favorably to these software solutions, even if they cost twenty times as much. When they do sound as good, then they are themselves running VST’s like your computer can, except in a tougher box.
Doing away with all the onboard sounds turns the Octapad into a simple MIDI controller, like an Alternate Mode DrumKAT, or an legacy Alesis ControlPad that has not yet malfunctioned. And this raises the serious question, why do the manufacturers of 16-pad USB finger drumming interfaces, such as Akai, Native Instruments and Korg, not just make one that can be played with drumsticks and accept a kick and a hat controller?
The first test here is, will the Octapad and it’s peripheral pedals send the right MIDI notes out, so that we hear the sounds we expect in the computer from each individual pad or pedal. And secondly, will it respond to a soft and tight drum roll that triggers external samples?
For this test I used EZDrummer to keep things simple. But not so fast. Before I could get the Octapad to send any signal to my Mac I had to download and install Roland’s SPD Series Driver. Then the Mac began to receive MIDI messages from the Octapad.
Right away there was mapping chaos, and unexpected sounds came from the pads, so there is considerable work to be done assigning your desired MIDI notes to the pads and second layers of your choice in the kit MIDI screen of your Octapad. After you do all that, and I have yet to commit the time to this job, you should strongly consider doing a global backup of the SPD-30 onto a USB key, per the manual. Then if you somehow lose everything, you will not have to go through all this mapping again!
But as for the other test, Yes the snare drum sounds contained in EZDrummer do enable you to play a reasonably proficient drum roll on your Octapad. Better than you can get from the internal sounds. Why? I don’t know. The SPD-30’s internal sounds let you play a great tom roll and great ride cymbal roll. But that snare pad does not want you to play a nice smooth roll unless you send out to a VST.
I realize, as I read this, I have made this sound quite complicated with all this menu navigation, MIDI mapping, driver downloads, and sensitivity settings etc. But it really isn’t, as long as you can read the manual. It is quite a good manual and quite a simple interface once you start to change a few settings and become familiar and practiced with the screen, buttons and knobs.
For a tiny kit solution, as researched last month in the-vu (link at end), the SPD-30 Octapad is a worthy solution that is unlikely to let you down with malfunctions and breakages, and will get you stuffed into a tiny space on that club stage as if you had just sauntered in with a violin and a music stand. And if your home is a tiny house, or if you have to keep all your gear on a shelf in a cupboard that will barely hold a saxophone, this is the way to go.
And I may be beating a dead horse by repeating this, but you have eight pads taking up about as much area as a floor tom head, that can substitute for one of today’s crazy big eKits, and yet produce a comparable sound.
One-week update: Getting deeper into the settings, my user kits are sounding much better, but very synthetic. However, even Roland’s most expensive module sounds synthetic to me so this is bargain-priced synthetic. I had a hard time getting the hats to open and close when trying to MIDI out to the computer, but I only tested it with Garageband and with EZDrummer. Roland support said that Roland V-Drums work better with Steven Slate Drums or BFD. It has to be said that VST drums sound a hundred times better than most modules, including the Octapad, so I may buy BFD or SSD one day, to record with my Octapad. But it’s “good enough for pitwork”, to coin a cliche, and I would still use this little thing live with a P.A. And the whole kit, pedals throne stand etc fit into a 27 gallon tote.
Thinking of buying the same?
Feel free to ask me for a long-term test opinion in the comments below.
The Roland Octapad SPD-30 compares favorably with the other available options for mini-kits.
- It beats the Yamaha DTX-Multi12 because bizarrely, that has pads that do not offer sufficient rebound for drumsticks.
- It beats the Roland SPD-SX sampling pad, just because that does not accommodate hi-hat control.
- It beats the inexpensive Alesis SamplePad Pro because that has numerous reports of quality issues.
- It beats the legacy models of Alesis pads, such as the Performance Pad, because they were hard, resonant, and prone to failure.
- It beats all models new and old of the very sophisticated DrumKAT because that needs external sounds, and has an extremely unpleasant user interface that could drive some users quite mad.
- It beats the previous Octapad, the SPD-20, because it has a nicer playing surface and better onboard drum sounds.
So it is far from being a perfect solution, but with limited choice, it may still be your best solution, if you want a tiny mini-kit and prefer the flat array format of triggers.
Jeffrey the Barak has played drums, on and off, since the 1960s, when a bass drum still had to be as big as a bass drum, etc.
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45 thoughts on “Roland Octapad SPD-30 as a mini-kit. A real drummer’s review”
Jeffrey, Thanks for the article it answers a lot of my questions,I am pretty much a beginning (again) drummer and was considering getting an acoustic kit, outfitting it with Aquarian Sound Pads an Zildjian Low volume symbols to make it quiet enough to play at home. I always did wonder why they “spread out” the e-drum kits to emulate an acoustic sized kit and figured it was probably due to muscle memory and familiarity. But since I am basically starting from scratch it seems to make sense to have a really compact kit like the Octapad. Thanks again for your article !
Hey man! Love your post on this. I was looking all over the interwebs to find this. I have a roland SPD-SX and wanted to be able to trigger only some kick samples over the micked acoustic sound for live performance.Like how the TM-2 does it.
How do I map “flex” samples on Addictive drums 2 to an external acoustic trigger to achieve this. Thankyou very much and loved this tutorial
I don’t know. I have yet to explore the MIDI triggering aspect of this unit. Being lazy and settling for the internals through phones or speakers. But I have to tackle all of this mapping confusion eventually if this is going to be of any use in recording.
Great article – did you magage to find a good solution in regards to midi hi hats and vst plug in like bfd ?
Struggling like mad to get the fd8 to work accordingly ?! Thank you for the inspiring article
Have not tried again since. Just using it live with onboard sounds, and have not tried to trigger a VST with it. But one day I will.
Hi! Brother I’m Raj. I’m using Spd-30. I want to use it as a Midi ControLLer with Spd-S. My needs are:
1) On Spd-30’s Pads 1-4 ( internal sounds) and Pads 5-8 (Spd-S Sounds).
2) AlternateLy on Spd-S.
I tried but I’m abLe to pLay onLy one module’s internal sounds ( like either Spd-30 or Spd-S sounds on Spd-S and Spd-30). I U CouLd Get me bro. Can u please help in Setting up the pads.
If not Spd-s than any Drum moduLe.
Thanks in advanCe Brother.
VERY interesting, I am also a jazz drummer and would love the idea of a one piece compact kit. My question is about the ride sounds, would the SPD-30 handle an external e-cymbal like the cy-13 with the three separate edge/bow/bell sounds? As a jazz drummer this is as important to me as snare rolls. Also, instead of using a snare stand, would it be possible to use the Roland mounting plate attached to a cymbal stand so I could use one stand only to hold both the the spd-30 and the cy-13? Thank you.
No Christian Hervas. I found that despite my best efforts, the SPD-30 was almost completely useless for jazz drumming. In fact even my best ever e-kit, the Yamaha DTX7xx setup, was a bit limited. Even when using VST software, there is no faithful reproduction for ride cymbals, and snare drums. They are complex acoustic instruments when they are not damped to death, and there is not enough computing power to do them justice. The SPD-30, even when tweaked to be as sensitive as it can go, requires fairly hard stickwork to trigger, and most of the jazz drummer’s musicality is at a force well below this threshhold. Do not waste your time with the Octapad if you intend to play jazz music.
Great article! If you’re going to go fake (because let’s face it – electronic drums are generated sounds) you might as well go all the way. I imagine that after getting to used to the relative close proximity of the Octapad pads, there’s absolutely no need for wanting to have electronic drums with individual drum pads and cymbal shaped pieces of rubber.
Good review. Thanks. Great to see that drummers are gradually waking up to the place edrums have in our musical repetoire.
“Hey! This electric guitar sucks because it’s not an exact replica of an acoustic guitar!” said no guitarist, ever. 🙂
I have a good question. If we want to ignore the on-board sounds and looper, and just want to use the midi triggers then why choose the spd-30 over the spd-20?
In that case, a low price used SPD-20 should be fine, or better yet A DrumKAT, whichever the most basic one is these days. It used to be the DK10. The higher end DrumKATs are too complicated to be any fun, unless you are an enormous boffin. If you are not a hard hitter, in that you use light sticks and play with your fingers and wrists, then even the Alesis things will be adequate triggers.
Very nice review…well written and interesting. I have currently have a Roland TD-20 kit and I also (until recently) owned the Roland Handsonic hpd-20. I agree, the Roland sounds are “synthetic” compared to Yamaha e-drums. I originally went with the Roland Handsonic as a “mini” e-drum kit– got a great price on the full kit– so bought it. It does have 15 pads, but many of them are very, very small, and they are centered around the top edge of the unit. Made to play with finger tips. The larger pads are meant to play with the hands, which is something I didn’t realize until I tried using it for practice with my band. Yeah, using drum sticks on it does not work so well… like, not at all! It really is made for hand drummers.
So, I ended up selling it and going with the Yamaha Multi-12 instead, since I already own the Yamaha DTX 920HWK kit, and I knew I could use the same mounting bracket from the module and stand– and the snare, hi hat controller and kick pads would be compatible as add-on pads.
I would have to disagree with you on the stick rebound being an issue on the Multi 12. The pads work very well for me and I am easily able to get doubles out of it using sticks. The hi hat controller works very well– not to mention the Multi 12 has twelve pads instead of the Roland Octopad’s eight.
It was extremly easy to MIDI map to Addictive drums. Took all of about 10 minutes. Also, the Multi 12 has the ability to layer up to four voices on each pad, in either “stack” mode or “alternate” mode. And one last very cool thing: The Multi 12 has a free app– connect the unit with USB to an ipad, open the app, and you can very quickly edit kits, .WAV files, patterens, tone and output, MIDI messages, effects, etc. right on the iPad and then save your changes to the unit.
So, I don’t necessarily think the Roland beats out the Yamaha; it just depends on individual tastes, I suppose.
The Multi 12 only has 50 preset kits, though– 200 User kits….and many of the preset kits are simply awful and unusable. Where this unit shines, though, is the ability to on-board .WAV trim, loop, and tweak sounds to make your own kits. That’s a whole lot of menu diving, but made much easier with the ipad app.
As how you decribe the “not-sensitive” trigger action of the Octapad, the same issue exists with the Multi 12. Can be frustrating. I have to change my trigger settings to either “finger” or “hand” mode to play with normal force on the pads with sticks, otherwise it takes way too much whacking velocity.
Thanks for the review. I just bought an SPD-30 too. I’m a bass player and like to use the phrase loop functionality. As I’m not a native drummer I’m wondering, would you be willing to share your custom kit files to help me getting better sounds out of the unit?
I sold mine long ago and returned to real acoustic drums. They are the only things that can respond to all the data that my sticks put out! I never used the phase loop function.
I’m struggling to find info on using midi in for extra pad triggers on spd30. It occurs to me that mesh Tom’s would be nice additions to the 4 standard inputs (snare, hat, kick, crash)
Could you tell me if that’s possible / advisable please?
Stay with the same brand, and just add any type of Roland pad. Honestly I can see why you might need a mesh snare pad, but the onboard pads are all you need for toms.
I think you are discounting the capabilities of the SPD-30 heavily and unfairly. You said to “ignore and overlook many of the features that you just paid good money for.” “The entire, prominently featured, “Phrase-Loop” engine? Pretend it’s not there.”
“The massive sound library of things that are not in an acoustic drum kit? Just say, “Very nice, but no thank you.” Seriously, why would you handicap the SPD-30 this way. Your saying to eliminate most of it and see what’s left… how about you write and article about all the short-comings of an acoustic drum set compared to the full functions of the SPD-30? That may be a very long article! If you can eliminate 100’s of functions/capabilities from the SPD-30 I would ask that you eliminate just one of your acoustic components, like your Snare Drum or your pedals – you choose!
And like Grant said: “Hey! This electric guitar sucks because it’s not an exact replica of an acoustic guitar!” said no guitarist, ever. ?
Hi Buddy. I was reviewing the SPD-30 as a tool to be used as a compact electronic drum set. That is why all those features were irrelevant to this particular review. None of those functions matter because the whole point is, how is it when used as a drum set? This was not a product review in the normal sense, and the article is only about using it instead of a full size e-kit, to play drums. Bass, snare, toms, hats and cymbals. That’s what this was about. I know the SPD-30 is a capable synthesizer, sequencer and more, but there are many product reviews published online, and this was not meant to be one of those.
I am on my second home-produced album of original songs, maybe a combination of Jackson Browne and Tom Petty. Came to the same conclusion about not needing a setup that looked like acoustic drums. One thing I did for recordings was to change all pads to where hard or soft strikes gave the same volume output. Really happy with the Octapad.
Hey! So I’m thinking of buying an octapad to replace my keyboard voice stuff; what are the pedals you use? Do they only work via midi, of do they connect to the pads hardware? Thanks.
Bass drum controllers and HiHat controllers for the Octapad are the same as for other Roland e-kits. All Roland gear will work with it.
Hello, great review!
i have the Spd-sx to do that job with a vst, I tried with Battery in Komplete 12 but it wasn’t good for acoustic drum, especially for snare.
do I need to use an other plugin like bfd or ezdrummer or may the Spd-sx isn’t the best solution ? hihat input is not a problem, for the moment!! I just want the sensitivity of drum module for acoustic sound with a plugin.
Thanks a lot!!
The SPD-SX is probably still the most playable one, besides the TrapKAT and DrumKAT. It just does not work as a kit replacement, because of the hat issue. I think that eKits need to have more RAM in their modules, and one-piece kits need to jump ahead a decade or two a.s.a.p.
Any links of your inbuilt custom kit or tips about settings to make it sound more real.
Shashank, That was years ago, but I think the article describes what I myself did to get the most out of the Octapad.
Nice to see that you are still monitoring this review. I owned the very first Octapad (Pad 8) and then bought the Pad 80 when it came out. Originally I used both as add-ons to my giant acoustic kit (this was the 80’s and 90’s) but later I actually gigged with the Pad 80 on a stand, a Tama Techstar pad as a kick pad and hi-hats played on the Pad 80 using the layering to get different sounds. A Roland MT32 sound module rounded it all out. Basic, but it was workable for what we were playing.
Now I have a “new” Octapad and it is set up with the Roland Pedals, mesh snare and a couple of little cheap splash cymbals as well as an extra Roland mesh pad connected into the external inputs. I was hoping that someone would work out how to get more sounds into the Octapad, which is how I found your article. I am building up a small home studio and will be connecting the Octapad up to my trusty 2010 cheesegrater Mac Pro. My question is, I bought the Octapad second hand and don’t know if it has the firmware update. How do I check?
Thanks for the article – I appreciate your thoughts.
I don’t remember exactly, but I think I did a firmware update on a Roland Handsonic by going to the Roland website. Long time ago!
Thanks Jeffrey (and everyone else who has commented). I am a bassist / (home) producer who has a SPD-30 primarily so that my drummer friends have something to play while at my house – I have the Roland kick and hi-hat pedals and have bought a couple of second hand Roland mesh pads and a cymbal to flesh it out a little. My goal is to have a compact kit that makes capturing a reasonable quality demo is feasible (and is gigable if need be). My drummer friends especially like having a seperate mesh head snare. I need to sort a stand for that. For now I record stereo out using internal sounds as a default – trying to get into the MIDI side of things (Logic is my primary DAW) but have found the experience inconsistent and prone to frustration – sometimes you just wanna capture the vibe quickly. Anyway, thanks again for the advice!
Great article. I have arthritis and no long wish to cart around an acoustic kit. I play in a country band, so my drum sound needs are pretty basic. BUT…I’m a left-handed drummer playing a right-handed kit. I play HH with my left hand and SN with my right. My question is, can I assign my “kit sounds” to whichever pad I want? Secondly, is the crash “pad” sensitive enough to register a light crash or a big crash? Or would I need two assigned pads? I also like playing the bell of the ride on occasion. How would one do that? I vacillating between the SPD30 and the SPDSX, but it sounds like the latter does not have HH control. Still pondering. Thank you!
Hi Thomas. I think there have been firmware updates since I sold mine, but pretty sure this Roland also other units can flip to left hand setup. And if not you can build and save a custom kit putting anything anywhere. Bell of Ride is an available sound. On KAT products you can have this come out when you hit a bit harder on the ride pad. Yes the SPDSX is the nicest of all, but not intended as a standalone kit and therefore is not ideal for hihats. I would suggest you spend a few days obsessively watching YouTube reviews of all the multi-pads, and look for the most recent dates. Don’t rule out Alesis as they have really improved in this area.
Hi Thomas, I used to have a mini kit build around the spd-30. However in the meantime I have changed to the Alesis strike multipad . This offers a lot more options than the spd-30 and has the same expandability. Have a look at that one as the SPD-30 is really an old device. Stay away from SPD-SX as it is not suited for a stand alone full function mini kit.
Hi, I’ve used the SPD30 as a trigger to Addictive Drums VST for 8 years now, and I found the playability and the sound result awesome, as far as your soundcard can cope with less than 5ms latency. It sounds exactly like a regular acoustic drumset ! No problem with rolls, ghosts notes, mid-opened hi-hats or whatever. I use it with a double bass drum pedal to play metal. The built-in USB midi interface has no latency, it copes very well with Reaper DAW. All in less than 1 m2 and without troubles with neighbourhood 🙂 I use various MIDI mappings to change drumset configuration according to my needs (very easy with Reaper).
Hi great great post, I am new to this and I have bought a SPD 30 to use as a mini kit I have worked most of it out but I don’t understand the difference between having the dynamics off or on ?? Apart from it being much louder off !! So where are the actual dynamics for adjustment sorry to appear a bit thick regards CJ
Colin, I honestly cannot remember. I sold mine years ago. But I used to have it set at its most sensitive because I am not a heavy hitter. It still required me to play harder than on an acoustic kit. You have to switch on the dynamics though, to sound real.
I kind of solved the minikit thing for me by using the SPD-30 in conjunction with a Yamaha DTX502 module. I have 2 Yamaha cymbals that go through the DTX (so I can use the 3 zones) and two Roland mesh pads also through the DTX as my toms. Everything else goes through the Roland (one snare pad and one cymbal plus pedals). I run the output from the DTX into the input in the Roland and take the final sound to the PA from the Roland. Latency seems not to be an issue.
The final kit is not as large as an acoustic kit or an electronic kit and can be folded up (with Octapad removed) and fitted into the back seat of my car. I am still tinkering with the dynamics of both modules. A work in progress but as I have bought it all in bits and pieces (most second hand), it’s been much more affordable than laying out for a full kit of any sort.
How resourceful. For me, I wanted to return to jazz drumming and a lot of the time I pay below the trigger threshold for almost any electronic drum. You really have to hit these things harder to get the info into the processor. So I use acoustic drums again.
I can’t thank you enough for this great article!! Been doing a lot of research and couldn’t quite find the answers I needed to make a decision and then I found this…thank you thank you! Ordered by SPD-30 today!!
I just sold my avatar pd705 due to dead hits and I also wanted to upgrade to the kt10 pedal. I’m disappointed in the sounds of the octapad and I wish I’d never switched from the avatar. The hihat pedal is impossible to get the open close hh disco beat sound okay which I did on the avatar. I did a lot of hh pedal with avatar and this octapad sucks.
Never heard of the Avatar until this moment. As far as I remember I had no problems with the HiHat on my Roland. Maybe your pedal is not compatible with it.
I just looked into this and I see the identical unit has been sold under several brands and names. It was first released after I wrote the article you commented upon this week, but just based on the video reviews, I would say the 705 is a better one-piece kit than the Roland Octapad that I reviewed six and half years ago. However I am sorry to hear that yours had “dead hits”. I guess the trick to all of these is to use light sticks and play at low velocity. After all, it can be loud without hitting hard. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I feel that unless you play jazz, electronic kits are ideal in any situation. Terrible for jazz drumming though.
The new SPD-SX Pro has hi hat control… does this put it above the Octapad SPD-30 in your view? I imagine the onboard sounds are much improved, but don’t know how any of the other elements, like feel of the pads, would compare. Thanks
Good to hear that hat control is there now. It’s absence before made that unit no good as a compact kit. I prefer the pads on the SPD-SX to those on the Octa. I am out of touch with the onboard sounds though. I suspect that the new wave of cheaper multipads might be givng Roland some competition now. A full kit in a little box remains elusive when so many e-drum kits are in the stores at low prices.